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 Something to consider before you rush off for your shot, or shots....

Before you roll up your sleeve to get that Swine Flu vaccine shot, keep in mind that the doctor who's sticking you with that needle probably opted not to get the shot - because he or she was too afraid of side effects.

At least that's the case in Hong Kong where about half of health workers passed on inoculations for the H1N1 virus in the middle of the biggest panic over the would-be pandemic.

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The reason: they doubted its effectiveness AND its safety.

The Hong Kong docs also claimed that they were concerned about the impact that any illness that THEY might contract would have on the nation's ability to respond to a pandemic. But you've got to wonder … what do they know that we don't?

Here in the West, the official party line is that all healthcare workers will be among the first to receive the vaccination for Swine Flu since they are the first line of defense against the sickness. But even the British Medical Journal admits that inoculating a nation's healthcare forces will be difficult if these workers "don't believe that vaccine to be safe and effective."

Yet one more reason to keep those sleeves rolled down, as well as the fact there not liable for any adverse side effects, in addition to unknowen long term adverse side effects this rapidly tested vaccine was approved under....Dr. Bill

 

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Oh please wrote on Oct 1, 2009 7:48 AM:

" The swine flu started when a group of KIDS when on a school trip to Mexico, then THEY brought it back. With the way people travel, it's hard to containe the flu. Grow up, please. This is why I can no longer call myself a conservative. They become more ignorant with each passing day. "




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Just Weird wrote on Sep 30, 2009 10:46 PM:

" Isn't it weird that swine flu started after Mr. Obama went to Mexico, and that all cases worldwide can be traced back to the U.S.A. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, but just that it's weird. I'll pass. "




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tyranny wrote on Sep 30, 2009 10:35 PM:

" Twin city hospital LPN's Contract Update: Managements proposal, the right to enforce mandatory forced vaccination programs. Stand up for liberty! "Say no to the Vaccine!" "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:20 PM:

" Hey Chickenman, I'm really OK with how you run your own life -- except for the gun-packin' part. I do believe that so many diseases and afflictions today are caused by what we all breathe, eat, drink, smoke, or inject. Still, I think there are times where we need to triage based upon what our needs require (migraines may need marijuana?) for comfort and survival. It's good to have choices, but we have to live or die with the choices we make. Peace out . . . "




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wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:19 PM:

" It's hard to know what to do. On one hand you have a vaccine that's not been out long, and the added fact that with the last Swine Flu vaccine we saw an increase in GBS.
On the other hand, you have healthy people who would normally withstand the flu very well, dying from secondary bacterial infections.
I believe my plan will be to update my kids pneumonia shots and wait and see on the swine flu vaccine. "




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Chickenman wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:11 AM:

" Judy you may be right puffin and postin are bad for grammer spelling, how many others can spell formaldhyde Whatever, my point is, these toxins cant be good for you. You may be well now but be ready for alzheimers, parkinsons SP?and who knows what else may happen after all those years of injecting toxins. Just think, you pay for vacinnes, and may also pay later, suffer way more than a few possible flu bouts...CM "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 29, 2009 6:42 PM:

" Hey Chickenman,

I'm glad you eat organic food; so do I.

I'm glad you haven't had a bad cold in ten years; neither have I. (I've had flu shots for the last ten years, too.)

You, however, need to take one or two fewer puffs of whatever before you write. Your grammar and spelling really suck. (Maybe you really aren't Dr. Bill!) "




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Chickenman wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:15 AM:

" Judy read whats in the vaccine, just to name a few,Fromadlhyde, anti freeze, thermasil which is mercury, yes they say its in canned tuna also but are you injecting tuna? Way different than ingesting oraly IMO a lot of folks have weakened immunity to begin with and in most cases flu could be eaisly prevented.with better health thru nutrition, i have had 1 minor cold in 10 yrs....CM... Healthy lifestyle "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 28, 2009 8:32 PM:

" 2nd to "We Opt.." : I did find the article you referred to, but it's pretty noncommital. The unpublished study is definitely not a done deal. It did say that one who received a seasonal flu shot LAST year might get a milder case of H1N1 this year, if in fact the study's suppositions were true. That's not earthshaking enough to cause all of us to run from flu shots. Do what you choose. I choose to be vaccinated. "




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We Opt Out wrote on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 AM:

" Judy J, I googled it, and it was the first thing that came up. Maybe your computer is broken. I don't know if links are allowed on here, but I'll try.

google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5g-jBo3N9xWt8pxrXRQvzljFetL0g "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 27, 2009 5:40 PM:

" To We Opt Out:

Could you give us all the website of the Canadian organization that did the study you're referring to? I've googled until my eyes are crossed, and I can't find any reference to such a study. Even Snopes has nothing. "




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Informed wrote on Sep 27, 2009 10:55 AM:

" Judy-J, I guess you can be the guinea pig.
Have fun with all those great side effects! "




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WE OPT OUT wrote on Sep 25, 2009 10:53 PM:

" A new study from Canada is showing that those who get the seasonal flu vaccine are more likely to get swine H1N1 flu, and why would you want that. Although it is only one study, Canada is considering holding off on seasonal flu vaccines. As for me and my family, no seasonal or swine flu vaccine. "




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to old for this stuff wrote on Sep 25, 2009 8:33 PM:

" I am 70 years old some years ago I took my first and last flu shot, with terrible side effects. I don't remember ever being so sick. No SHOT for me. Thank You "




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Reality wrote on Sep 25, 2009 8:29 PM:

" Just me,

You may be right! I always assumed chickenman (pro MJ and anti-vaccine) and chickenman (pro organic food) and Hewitt (pro MJ and taxpayers supporting him while he distributes MJ) were the same person. But your theory works well too! "




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Just Me wrote on Sep 25, 2009 2:09 PM:

" No wait Dr. Bill must equal William Hewitt the Pot supplier, he just opened up his pot shop, he thinks he is a doctor and the chicken man and him are friends. "




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Chickenman wrote on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 AM:

" Yes The chickenman does knows Dr Bill....Iam not the only one to think a little about all this, and its good for a chuckle to see reactions from some who wont even consider thinking a little about what there doing, sad but funny in a way...CM "




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HURRY UP wrote on Sep 23, 2009 8:55 PM:

" I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD GET VACCINATED SOON, ID BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO WORK BASED ON ATTRITION. "




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health care worker wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:12 PM:

" C'mon people! Have you ever known "chickenman" to withhold his identity as "chickenman". He must be getting quite a chuckle out of reading the posts of all you who have it figured out!! lol. "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 23, 2009 4:38 PM:

" To "Informed" (not),

We all know how to use the Google Machine. The problem is with the sites we choose to believe: You and "Dr." Bill/Chickenman (?) have your website preferences and I have mine. While I'm always wary of something touted as wonderful, I'm not a knee-jerk reactionary -- and I get vaccinations. "




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Get Real wrote on Sep 23, 2009 3:34 PM:

" People: "Dr. Bill" is CHICKENMAN! This is just another of his endless posts about vaccines. Except people have caught never-ending scare mongering... so he is using another name! "




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Mount Rose wrote on Sep 23, 2009 1:59 PM:

" I know Dr. Bill and you are NO Dr. Bill. Don't come across as a medical doctor. If you are a REAL medical doctor, please reveal your name so we all know and then can trust your stance. "




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Trisha wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:27 PM:

" "Dr. Bill" is "Chickenman." He is on a tireless scare campaign to have everyone avoid vaccines and the evil government. If all else fails, he will start offering free splifs to anyone that agrees not to get a vaccine and joins his campaign of trying to scare everyone into living the way he wants.

Chickenman seriously needs to find a hobby… one that does not involve “puff-puff, pass” or endless paranoid internet ramblings! "




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Informed wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:18 PM:

" JudyJ-You need to do your research before you go around discrediting the opinion of anyone regardless if they are a medical doctor or not. Research swine flu vaccine (you can even google it) and you will find way more negatives then positives...this goes for all vaccines not just for the swine flu. This entire nation needs to stop taking information that is handed to them as accurate and start proactively informing themselves through research. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!! "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 22, 2009 8:05 PM:

" "Dr." Bill:

I do not believe that you're a medical doctor. Should you, however, actually be one, I'd like to know exactly who you are, so I can be sure that I never find myself in your office. While we all should always wash our hands and be careful, our knees need not jerk. Stop trying to make people fearful. "




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Health care worker wrote on Sep 22, 2009 1:44 PM:

" candidates for the vaccine. Before everyone freaks out, realize that most people in this age bracket have had exposure to a similar virus years ago, and therefor have developed antibodies, reducing their risk. If you are truly worried about this virus, wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands!!! And stay home if you are sick!! "




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Health care worker wrote on Sep 22, 2009 1:41 PM:

" As a young, healthy, health care worker, I will not be getting the swine flu vaccination. There are times when vaccinations are appropriate, and times when they are not. Each individual must consider their risk factor. Most all of us will probably get exposure to this virus, and some will aquire it. However, it is only a more dangerous risk factor to select groups of people. Sometimes its best to let the body develop its own antibodies. On that note, it appears as of lately that people over the age of 60 will not be "




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Just Me wrote on Sep 22, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Sounds like more Chicken man. "




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Opt Out wrote on Sep 22, 2009 11:13 AM:

" I decided agianst the swine flu or seasonal flu vaccines. Haven't had a seasonal flu shot in many, many years, and never get the flu. I personally think the swine flu vaccine will be a bust. "




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Sandy wrote on Sep 22, 2009 10:22 AM:

" Every year we get the 'flu' shot. Every year we have to sign a paper to get it. What is so different about the H1N1 flu shot? Flu shots are new each year depending what is going around. We get those without question. People are dying from the H1N1 and people die every year from the regular flu...it is important to people like me with emphysema not to get either flu so I for one, will roll up my sleeve and the sooner the better. "




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