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We had exactly the same experience at Buckhorn last summer.  I moved away from here for a couple decades, and Buckhorn used to be a secluded place, one of my favorites.  We camped there right after moving back, and there was a group of people running a dirt bike up and down through the campground with no lights, playing music you could hear throughout the campground, and shooting until at least midnight.  I haven't been back to camp since.  Since it belongs to the city, I'd say someone from the P.D. or sheriff's office needs to drop by regularly and make sure that kind of thing isn't happening.  I'm a little surprised that so many people with so little respect for nature and other people even go up there. 

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Driven out of Buckhorn wrote on Oct 9, 2009 7:38 AM:

" My family found buckhorn two years ago when we were out exploring, it was beautiful and seren so we camped out......Dusk set in and our camp site was suddenly on the recieving end of some crazy groups wild firing of their guns into the lake....Hello stupid shooting across the lake are you kidding !! "




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Chickenman wrote on Oct 7, 2009 2:08 PM:

" Famous last words....I thought It was unloaded, or I only had 1 beer officer.....Your only allowed 1 mistake, unless your VP Chenny who admittedly had "1 beer" at lunch and shot his friend in the face during a hunting trip.
He got away with it, you probaly would be in lots of trouble, so please be careful at all times, and respect and enjoy safe firearm use.....Dont want to sound like Father Responsiblity but just think it over please..Thanks POCM "




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JWeee wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:06 PM:

" "Chickenman" Did I say I get drunk then shoot guns? Sorry, that's just a miss understanding. Guess I did type it in the same sentence... again with the grammar. :o) Getting drunk and shooting are definitely separate for me... not that I get drunk that often. I will occasionally have a beer and shoot a gun, don't see the problem there, as I am a responsible drinker. CM; I normally enjoy what you have to say, however here I think your reading a little too much into what I wrote. "




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chickenman wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:24 PM:

" Kinda scary when someone thinks its ok to drink and shoot guns. For me I am very serious when it comes to firearm safety. As a youth I learned once the 1st beer came out all guns were off limits, no exceptions. Theres no problem discharging a firearm on blm land for hunting or target pratice, but to just shoot to shoot when drunk is asking for trouble. Just think if you were injured,or accidently shot someone else, good luck when so far out and drunk!!!.....POCM "




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chickenman wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM:

" Chief Hosa once said the Earth does not belong to us, We belong to the Earth.
JWEEE why is it necessary to yell, shoot and get drunk obnoxious anywhere at anytime? Is that really fun? Dont you understand the dangers of drinking and guns? I dont think you have any respect for the land or your own safety if you really had the common sense you say, youd be more respectful and careful than that.... Think about it Thanks POCM "




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Happy Camper wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:04 PM:

" I respect JWeee's rights to do his/her thing away from others and I am glad the respect is mutual when others are around. "




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Lil ole me wrote on Oct 6, 2009 2:55 PM:

" Doesnt the chickenman have anything to say here? "




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JWeee wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:50 AM:

" Also, yes it is o.k. to yell, shoot, get drunk, be obnoxious on BLM and Forest Service land.... as long as you're respectful of other folks and of the land. Hence, using common scense. "




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JWeee wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:46 AM:

" "JudyJ" So how is doing all those things I described abusing public land? I don't litter, ride off trails, etc. However, if I'm camping away from other people I have been known to party till the next morning. there's plenty of room out there for us all... that is my point. If I'm camping next to someone else its common courtesy to not disturb them. Maybe you misunderstood me. "




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LOL wrote on Oct 6, 2009 7:24 AM:

" Judy J I think was Jwee is trying to say is exactly what we are asking of people. Jwee likes to do those things but looks for areas where others aren't. I can very much respect that. It goes with the whole concept of sharing the land. Jwee uses it as he sees fit but not at the expence of others, Thanx Jwee "




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JudyJ wrote on Oct 5, 2009 8:01 PM:

" To JWeeeeeeeeeeeeee,

So, it's OK to yell, shoot, get drunk and obnoxious on the land if it's BLM or forest service? What/who gave you the idea that it's perfectly acceptable to be a total jerk because it isn't city property? We're all responsible for being decent human beings and taking care of what we all "own" collectively. It's not "common courtesy" to abuse the area just because nobody is close by. Golden Rule rules. Think about it. "




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JWeee wrote on Oct 5, 2009 1:16 PM:

" I like to get away and be loud and party in the mountains also... shoot guns, play music, ride ATV's. However, when I do these things I stay away from other people. I go to BLM or forest service land, not city parks. This is just common courtesy... I don't think cops should be up there, but there should be a camp host. "




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LOL wrote on Oct 5, 2009 12:39 PM:

" And, just for the record it sounds like the cops are very much needed at Buckhorn, because apparently you people are unable to Police yourselves. Try to pull off that same behavior in any other town park, which is exactly what Buckhorn is, and I guarantee the cops will be there to set you straight. "




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LOL wrote on Oct 5, 2009 12:37 PM:

" Get over it”, what an aggressive and belligerent response from someone as highly educated as yourself “listen to this”. I was only stating an observation and asking a question. I’m surprised it elicited such a comment from you. I guess law and order as well as respect for others doesn’t apply to someone with a 4.0 GPA, my bad. I better take my uneducated self to the library and research Colorado laws as they pertain to disturbing the piece, excessive noise, harassment and disorderly conduct. Maybe I’ll learn where it says you can molest my solitude. "




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Listen to this... wrote on Oct 4, 2009 6:00 PM:

" Actually "LOL" I have never once in my life been in trouble, I'm in college with a 4.0 GPA, I'm very educated. The POINT is... cops need to stay where they are needed not in the mountains where people are and should be doing what they want to do, and that is enjoying the outdoors however they see fit. And yes I like to be loud and party in the mountains. Get over it! "




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Rick Y. wrote on Oct 3, 2009 8:56 AM:

" Is it too much to ask that people respect the rights of others? Unless you are in the privacy of your own home or on your own property you do not have the right to do what you please. Is it so hard to show some courtesy to others? It's really pretty simple, treat others the way you would like to be treated. "




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JudyG wrote on Oct 3, 2009 4:39 AM:

" Local Man & Local man 2's attitudes are probably the reason people "try to get outta town"...and then they run into more of the same mentality at Buckhorn. It irks me when people think it's "their town and no one else has a right to live there! I hope this isn't the overall mentality for Montrose area! "




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JudyJ wrote on Oct 2, 2009 5:45 PM:

" Oh, Chickenman, I was just kidding about that marijuana thing! Not only have I never smoked it (and don't want to now), I only smelled it once -- in a campground 10 years ago. I'm also older than you are, and have been married happily for 45 years. Keep that vaporizer running . . . . "




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chickenman wrote on Oct 2, 2009 4:28 PM:

" Hey Judy whats up with:"camping should we about people having a good time... hmmmm maybe my spelln n gramr aint so bad after all ...LOL...But I still get the point.... dont forget ...Live, Love, Laugh.....Lifes to short not too!!!, BTW. I think youre a pretty good egg...POCM "




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chickenmqan wrote on Oct 2, 2009 4:04 PM:

" If you dont like dont go..... Ive spent thousands of hours flyfishing the Gunnison River in The Gunnisom Gorge. This my place of worship,one of the best trout fisheries worldwide. The river is big enough for all and most flyfiserman respect each others space and honor and respect the area. The more you hike the better it gets, so if you want some solice try Grand Mesa before or after bug season, so many other choices here in beautiful Western Colo. POCM "




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chickenman wrote on Oct 2, 2009 3:05 PM:

" Judy says... "older" people enjoying their surroundings -- no marijuana smells..........Maybe I need to hang out with Chickenman and smoke a few joints to figure it all out . Hey Judge Judy iam almost 60 yrs old, sorry happily married, but would love to share some mj with you someday,and we'll figure it all out!! LOL However have not smoked a dube for years, vaporizers are the way to go,safe, no smoke,no carcinogens, sp error...I know, thats me.. luvya POCM "




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Mary wrote on Oct 2, 2009 12:11 PM:

" I am new in town and came here for the beautiful mountains, we drove up to Buckhorn and I was shocked to see so much broken glass and garbage. I would like to party and relax there also, but could we at least pick up and not break bottles. Just be considerate of others. We are lucky to have Buckhorn so lets all try to keep it beautiful "




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local man 2 wrote on Oct 1, 2009 4:44 PM:

" Over 75 percent of the county is still farms, ranch land, or open space The so called city is not that big. travel outside of main or townsend and ull c what i mean "




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Oldt wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:31 AM:

" HeheLala,

I'm not sure about the complaining part, but you're correct about being able to camp around here with nobody around. I go camping all the time and don't see anyone. The problem is most people want to camp... in a campground. And when you do that, differing personalities must interact. And your idea of fun may not be the same as the people next to you. That’s called reality.

Heck ATV’s and people partying never bothered me… it was the screaming kids and indifferent parents that drove me away! "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:10 PM:

" "Happy Camper" and "LOL" hit it on the nail. "Local and 2," City people? This IS a city, but you don't get it. Why is it that some of us (who don't actually own this town/city that is no longer a bunch o' farms) don't understand the Golden Rule? However, I'd give up on Buckhorn as a lost cause. Go elsewhere -- but hope that cops eventually show up at Buckhorn on Friday/Saturday to enforce laws they're supposed to enforce. "




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Happy Camper wrote on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM:

" So I guess the conclusion has been drawn that if you want to camp in peace near a lake you are screwed. The partiers own it all because it is their right. And I love LOL's comment! "




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local man 2 wrote on Sep 30, 2009 1:33 PM:

" im with local man. all u city people get out of our town "




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HeheLala wrote on Sep 30, 2009 10:07 AM:

" Let's be honest here... this all comes down to certain people believing everyone else must live by their rules. Nothing more, nothing less. And when they don't get their way, they cry on a messageboard.

If you want to go camping with nobody around, it's really easy to do here. But certain people don't want to do that because then they would have nothing to complain about! "




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LOL wrote on Sep 30, 2009 5:25 AM:

" Local Man, if you truly are local, you should be more upset than anyone about the conditions at Buckhorn. I remember as a child going fishing there and in two days time not seeing another soul. I think every one here is correct to a point. ATV’s can be enjoyable and fun but as with all things there is a time and a place. Our public lands are multiple use so to believe they will remain pristine in just ignorance. Were all going to have to share and be respectful of each other. "




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local man wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:14 PM:

" All of you cry baby people should move back to were you came from and leave all of good ole local boys alone. "




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middle age native wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:24 PM:

" personally I dont like to camp at buckhorn. first off the area is to small for the amount of people who like to go there. SilverJack is one of the best places to go. there is camping for everyone if you want a camp host there is a site close to the lake, if you want a site with toilets there are those as well. and if are one of those that really wants to be alone there are plenty of those sites as well "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 PM:

" Wait, wait, I'm trying to get what's going on here. "Farm Girl" says Montrose (and therefore camping?) is all about ATVs. But "Listen" claims that camping is about getting away from the cops! And "Happy Camping" and "S.S." actually believe that camping should we about people having a good time without destroying others' fun. Maybe I need to hang out with Chickenman and smoke a few joints to figure it all out . . . . ;^) "




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LOL wrote on Sep 29, 2009 5:59 PM:

" Ok, “listen to this”. Your point is made. But it has been my experience that those who want to get away from the Cops are usually those that have a propensity for breaking the law. Do you fall into this category?? "




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GET OVER IT wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:42 PM:

" Always crying about something is right... All these uppity people in Montrose need to get a life and worry about some REAL problems! "




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Listen to this... wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:40 PM:

" Oh yeah, you should ruin camping by sending the cops up to the MOUNTAINS to tell you what to do!! No way! That's why you go to the mountains, to have a good time and get away from the cops! If you dont like it, there are PLENTY of secluded mountains in Colorado to choose from, go there!! How ridiculous. "




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Happy Camper wrote on Sep 29, 2009 12:32 PM:

" Farm Girl, so you feel that riding your ATV at Midnight where many other people are camping and keeping them all awake is ok? It is the thoughtless actions such as that, riding off trails and tearing up land that is getting your riding rights taken away. I dont have a problem with ATV riding, personally I find it a lot of fun however just like people that shouldnt be driving cars there are those that shouldnt have ATVs/Motorcycles either. "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:44 AM:

" To Farm Girl,

Who said ATVs and four-wheel-drive vehicles should be banned? I surely wouldn't, because we own a 4WD, which we drive responsibly. The people who have complaints are saying that others are operating them recklessly and without regard to other people around them. Still, no way is operation of ATVs "part of living" in Montrose. Who made that one up? "




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Farm girl wrote on Sep 28, 2009 7:56 PM:

" I personally ride my 4wheeler up at Buckhorn and camp up there on a regualar basis. For all you people who think we should stay away its people like you that are causing so much land to be shut off to 4wheelers and MC. If you dont like it then MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE!! Its part of living in Montrose. Its just the way it is. "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:45 PM:

" Thanks to the driving instructions we received from some of you, we drove to Buckhorn Lakes today, first time. The washboardy road was fine; chaparral colors were great, except for the smoke over the valley. At the lakes, we found jbarely a handful of "older" people enjoying their surroundings -- no marijuana smells, not ATVs. We must have missed the weekend "crazies." "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 28, 2009 6:39 PM:

" Yes, Happy Camper, you are absolutely correct! Where and how have the teeny-tiniest minority us gotten the idea that they're somehow entitled to grossly, outrageously offend everybody else anytime, anyhow, in any way? They are definitely the ones who should be forced to go elsewhere -- or arrested for disturbing the peace. "




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Happy Camper wrote on Sep 28, 2009 9:27 AM:

" Calvin & MH, there is a big difference in partiyng a bit and riding ATV's which I dont mind at all but I think there is a limit to what time you are being rude about it. Maybe if you are wanting an all night riding and music fest you should be the one to move where you wont disturb other people. Most people I know dont want to be up all night, they go to have some peace and quiet, if they wanted noise they would camp in their backyard in town. "




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calvin wrote on Sep 27, 2009 8:00 AM:

" You should try camping on the Plateau, especially during Fat Fred's. It is really peaceful. Look, don't camp anywhere near water or near a Mountain Pass. Stay away from designated ATV and MC trails. Do not camp if there is a cow withing 3 miles (flies, smell) That still leaves a few million acres for you to camp all by yourself. I think I smell a liberal. "




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MH wrote on Sep 26, 2009 8:10 AM:

" I think that you need to get over it. People take their dirtbikes & fourwheelers up camping with them all the time. They go up to relax & party also. If you dont like it then dont go. No one wants to hear how much of a crybaby you are! "




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Informant wrote on Sep 25, 2009 9:11 AM:

" JudyJ,
From Montrose go 550 south to Buckhorn Rd and turn left. Follow rough dirt road all the way to Buckhorn Lakes. When you hear the loud music and smell the weed, you are there!

You can also look it up on Google Earth, it does show the road names on how to get there. "




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alwaycryin wrote on Sep 25, 2009 8:41 AM:

" You people are always cryin about something. I have never had a problem when I go camping there. And yes I have a FULL BRAIN. And I think the mountains are where you ride?!!?!! Right..... GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!!!!!! "




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Happy Camper wrote on Sep 25, 2009 8:37 AM:

" JudyJ. You turn left next to the store in Cologna and take the road up the mountain. If you are in Montrose and look southeast it is the mountain with the towers on top. It is very nice up there, 2 lakes, aspens and big spruce trees, the perfect place to camp if only everyone gave a darn about other people. "




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Joe Montrose wrote on Sep 25, 2009 6:11 AM:

" It's not just at Buckhorn, but at many places surrounding Montrose. This is getting bad. No enforcement, no respect for the land or other campers. "




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JudyJ wrote on Sep 24, 2009 7:43 PM:

" I guess I'm missing out on all the Buckhorn "fun." Somebody please tell me where Buckhorn is. (Not that I'd ever in a million years camp there -- who with more than half a brain would? -- but I'm really curious where it is. Maybe I'll show up when you least expect it, and yell, "Smile . . . ! " "




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loud music wrote on Sep 24, 2009 3:18 PM:

" My friend and I went there in June.It was crowded, a bunch of people were playing loud music,people riding quads and dirt bikes,kids screaming and a big city chick who was complaining about getting her hair dirty.
It was not a fun camping trip,when you go camping you want peace and quiet and to hear the sounds of nature.If I wanted to hear loud music and be in a large crowd I would have gone to a concert.
I suggest we find a new place to camp since Buckhorn is crowded with annoying people. "




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